Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/09/1994 09:15 AM Senate STA

Audio Topic
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
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 CHAIRMAN LEMAN announces the committee will switch to SB 220 (ADD             
 "CAT" TO SCHEDULE IIA DRUG LIST) while Sergeant Crawford is on the            
 teleconference.  The chairman announces the committee now has a               
 quorum and is no longer in worksession.                                       
                                                                               
 Number 157                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS says SB 220 would amend the controlled substances               
 list for the State of Alaska by including the substance                       
 methcathinone, also known as "cat".  Senator Ellis claims the drug            
 is more addictive than heroin, more powerful than cocaine, and                
 easy, inexpensive, and extremely profitable to produce.  Senator              
 Ellis states there is a committee substitute before the committee             
 in the bill packet that he hopes the committee will consider.  The            
 committee substitute eliminates ephedrone from the original bill.             
 The correct word is actually ephedrine, which is a common drug and            
 a precursor to methcathinone.  The other change in the cs is                  
 changing methcathinone from schedule IIA to schedule IA, to be in             
 sync with the federal law regarding methcathinone.                            
                                                                               
 Number 201                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN recalls the "designer drug" legislation from a past            
 session and wonders if there is some generic way to name and cover            
 these future drugs.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 220                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS said the "designer drug" legislation came into his              
 mind also, when he heard about methcathinone.  However, he checked            
 with the Department of Law and the State Crime Lab and they both              
 said methcathinone was not criminalized by existing statute.                  
                                                                               
 Number 231                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN restates he wasn't trying to think of a generic way            
 to describe methcathinone so much as a generic way to outlaw drugs            
 that will be developed in the future.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 237                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS does not know if doing something like that would                
 cause a problem with the court system: to be so vague and generic,            
 and perhaps the legislature cannot criminalize a substance that               
 doesn't yet exist.  There is a balance that must be struck.                   
                                                                               
 Number 241                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN states the committee will change on page 1, line 1,            
 in the title, IIA to IA; delete ephedrone (should actually read               
 ephedrine) from page 1, line 7, and change the site in statute in             
 which this law would occur.  The chairman asks Ms. Knuth where SB
 220 should be placed in statute.                                              
 Number 254                                                                    
                                                                               
 MARGO KNUTH, Assistant Attorney General, Department of Law,                   
 Criminal Division, states the department supports SB 220.  Since SB
 220 was introduced, the department has discovered that                        
 methcathinone is classified on the federal schedule as a class IA             
 substance.  The Department of Law thinks IA is an appropriate                 
 classification for methcathinone.  Ms. Knuth notes for the                    
 committee that the statutory change should be to AS 11.71.140 (c)             
 (82).  There are three different listings within AS 11.71.140.                
 They are subsections (b), (c), and (d).  Ms. Knuth believes SB 220            
 would fall under subsection (c), but she will verify that with the            
 State Crime Lab.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 271                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN adds that a conceptual amendment could be made,                
 simply stating that the language in SB 220 be placed in the                   
 appropriate subsection in statute.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 276                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH comments that with respect to the broader question                  
 regarding how the legislature could anticipate new drugs, the                 
 federal government has proposed model legislation that tries to do            
 a better job of anticipating new controlled substances.  She states           
 it is a complex, technical problem and thinks working with some of            
 the potential solutions would be a good project for the interim.              
 Ms. Knuth says it is fortuitous SB 220 has a good chance of passing           
 the legislature before methcathinone becomes a serious problem in             
 Alaska.  She thinks it is a very bad drug for several reasons: it             
 is cheap, it is easy to manufacture, and the violence level                   
 associated with users is frightening.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 294                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks Ms. Knuth if she has any comment on deleting              
 the word ephedrone (ephedrine) on line 7 in SB 220, or does she               
 think it is just a technical deletion.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 297                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH states listing ephedrone (ephedrine) in SB 220 is                   
 inappropriate, since it is a precursor to methcathinone.                      
                                                                               
 Number 301                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS moves the amendments to SB 220, the amendments being            
 to delete the word ephedrone (ephedrine) on page 1, line 7; on page           
 1, line 5 to change the site in which the legislation would appear            
 in statute from AS 11.71.150 (b) to AS 11.71.140 (c) (82), or what            
 ever the appropriate site may be; page 1, line 1, changing schedule           
 IIA to schedule IA.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 314                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there are any objections to the amendments.            
 Hearing none, he orders the bill to be amended as noted above.  The           
 chairman asks if Sergeant Crawford would like to testify on SB 220.           
                                                                               
 Number 319                                                                    
                                                                               
 SERGEANT RANDY CRAWFORD, Alaska State Troopers, testifying from               
 Anchorage, says he would like to work with the legislature on a               
 precursor bill which would address ephedrone (ephedrine) and other            
 drugs that are precursors to designer drugs.  Currently the                   
 troopers have no way to prohibit large quantities of those                    
 substances from being shipped into the state, other than some                 
 federal regulations which apply.  Sergeant Crawford also believes             
 methcathinone should properly be classified as a schedule IA                  
 controlled substance.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 330                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN thanks Sergeant Crawford for his testimony and asks            
 if there is anyone else wishing to testify on SB 220.  Hearing                
 none, the chairman asks if Senator Ellis wishes to move the bill.             
                                                                               
 Number 335                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS makes a motion to discharge SB 220 as amended from              
 the Senate State Affairs Committee with individual recommendations.           
                                                                               
 Number 338                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objections, orders SB 220 discharged               
 from committee with individual recommendations.                               

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